Discussion:
MBBS/WG and MMUD
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Savage One
2004-08-23 21:57:11 UTC
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What I would like to know is; Why screw around with the code for MBBS? Isn't and shouldn't everyone be using WG by now? I mean come on, be real, by now the era of the old time MBBS dialup bbs's and the need for multiple modems, and or a Galactibox should be over shouldn't it? I mean unless you're living in a 3rd world country. Unless I missed something in an earlier post, sheesh folks, come into the 21st century.
Which brings me to MY real question. If using an editor such as the Nightmare Redux editor for Major MUD is in direct violation of the MMUD License Agreement, and the punishment for doing so is nothing more than refusal of further version updates for MMUD, no more new Mods, and refusal of tech support for MMUD. So what's the big deal? I mean those pitiful punishments only work if you are actually a bona fide MajorMud owner. And even if you are a "real" owner and you edit your MMUD and get caught by the mighty Metropolis Online Entertainment, boo-hoo, you're now running an edited MMUD, why wait and depend on Metropolis to furnish you with anything in the first place. You've got an editor, that makes you God. Don't be shy, create your own new areas, add new quests, monsters, weapons, items, classes and races. The only limit should be your imagination. I DO NOT recommend doing this to an existing MMUD unless you do regular backups of your WCC files. And I would test out the new "whatever" to make sure it doesn't crash MMUD or the BBS.
In short, who really cares what Metropolis wants. Just because they bought the rights to MMUD, doesn't mean they know what to do with it, or should even try to add anything further to it. I don't understand why (Metro) doesn't release all MMUD owners from the "no modification to our software" clause in the license agreement, and do away with it period, of course with a warning and stipulation to the effect of "any modification to our software shall be at the purchasers own risk, and Metropolis shall not be held liable for any loss or damage end user modifications might cause". Open MMUD up to modification to whatever degree by the people that honestly love the game. Metropolis would be amazed at the variety of items, areas, and improvements to the game their end users would come up with. I mean it's going to happen, well probably not the disposal of the "no mod" clause. But freedom of expression within your own realm is. It IS already happening on edited and pirated bbs's all over the world. And yes, I'm sure even in those 3rd world countries where they still use MBBS, Galactiboxes, multi-modems, and good old dialup service...........


Savage Pride
MajorMud, Realm Of Legends
WWW, Internet, Sol 3
Corey
2004-08-24 01:58:35 UTC
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To: Savage One
Re: MBBS/WG and MMUD
By: Savage One to alt.bbs.majorbbs on Mon Aug 23 2004 10:57 pm
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What I would like to know is; Why screw around with the code for =
MBBS? Isn't and shouldn't everyone be using WG by now? I mean come on, =
be real, by now the era of the old time MBBS dialup bbs's and the need =
for multiple modems, and or a Galactibox should be over shouldn't it? I =
mean unless you're living in a 3rd world country. Unless I missed =
something in an earlier post, sheesh folks, come into the 21st century.
Which brings me to MY real question. If using an editor such as the =
Nightmare Redux editor for Major MUD is in direct violation of the MMUD =
License Agreement, and the punishment for doing so is nothing more than =
refusal of further version updates for MMUD, no more new Mods, and =
refusal of tech support for MMUD. So what's the big deal? I mean those =
pitiful punishments only work if you are actually a bona fide MajorMud =
owner. And even if you are a "real" owner and you edit your MMUD and get =
caught by the mighty Metropolis Online Entertainment, boo-hoo, you're =
now running an edited MMUD, why wait and depend on Metropolis to furnish =
you with anything in the first place. You've got an editor, that makes =
you God. Don't be shy, create your own new areas, add new quests, =
monsters, weapons, items, classes and races. The only limit should be =
your imagination. I DO NOT recommend doing this to an existing MMUD =
unless you do regular backups of your WCC files. And I would test out =
the new "whatever" to make sure it doesn't crash MMUD or the BBS.=20
In short, who really cares what Metropolis wants. Just because they =
bought the rights to MMUD, doesn't mean they know what to do with it, or =
should even try to add anything further to it. I don't understand why =
(Metro) doesn't release all MMUD owners from the "no modification to our =
software" clause in the license agreement, and do away with it period, =
of course with a warning and stipulation to the effect of "any =
modification to our software shall be at the purchasers own risk, and =
Metropolis shall not be held liable for any loss or damage end user =
modifications might cause". Open MMUD up to modification to whatever =
degree by the people that honestly love the game. Metropolis would be =
amazed at the variety of items, areas, and improvements to the game =
their end users would come up with. I mean it's going to happen, well =
probably not the disposal of the "no mod" clause. But freedom of =
expression within your own realm is. It IS already happening on edited =
and pirated bbs's all over the world. And yes, I'm sure even in those =
3rd world countries where they still use MBBS, Galactiboxes, =
multi-modems, and good old dialup service...........
Savage Pride
MajorMud, Realm Of Legends
WWW, Internet, Sol 3
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Why screw around with the code for MBBS? Isn't and shouldn't everyone be =
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WG by now? I mean&nbsp;come on, be real, &nbsp;by now the era of the old =
time=20
MBBS dialup&nbsp;bbs's and the need for multiple modems, and or a =
Galactibox=20
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country.=20
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the 21st=20
century.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Which brings me to=20
<STRONG><U>MY</U></STRONG> real question. If using an editor such as the =
Nightmare Redux editor for Major MUD is in direct violation of the MMUD =
License=20
Agreement, and the punishment for doing so is nothing more than refusal =
of=20
further version updates for MMUD, no more new Mods, and refusal of tech =
support=20
for MMUD. So what's the big deal? I mean those pitiful punishments only =
work if=20
you are actually a bona fide MajorMud owner. And even if you are a =
<U>"real"</U>=20
owner and you edit your MMUD and get caught by the mighty Metropolis =
Online=20
Entertainment, boo-hoo, you're now running an edited MMUD, why wait and =
depend=20
on Metropolis to furnish you with anything in the first place. You've =
got an=20
editor, that makes <STRONG>you</STRONG> God. Don't be shy, create your =
own new=20
areas, add new quests, monsters, weapons, items, classes and races. The =
only=20
limit should be your imagination. I <STRONG><U>DO NOT</U></STRONG> =
recommend=20
doing this to an existing MMUD unless you do regular backups of your WCC =
files.=20
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MMUD or=20
the BBS. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In short, who really =
cares what=20
Metropolis wants. Just because they <STRONG>bought</STRONG> the rights =
to MMUD,=20
doesn't mean they know what to do with it, or should even try to add =
anything=20
further to it. I don't understand why (Metro) doesn't release all MMUD =
owners=20
from the "no modification to our software" clause in the license =
agreement, and=20
do away with it period, of course with a&nbsp;warning and stipulation to =
the=20
effect of "any modification to our software shall be at the purchasers =
own risk,=20
and Metropolis shall not be held liable for any loss or damage end user=20
modifications might cause". &nbsp;Open MMUD up to modification to =
whatever=20
degree by the people that honestly love the game. Metropolis would be =
amazed at=20
the variety of items, areas, and improvements to the game their&nbsp;end =
users&nbsp;would come up with. I mean it's going to happen, well =
probably not=20
the disposal of the "no mod" clause. But freedom of expression within =
your own=20
realm is. It <STRONG>IS</STRONG>&nbsp;already happening on edited and =
pirated=20
bbs's all over the world. And yes, I'm sure even in those 3rd world =
countries=20
where they still use MBBS, Galactiboxes, multi-modems, and good old =
dialup=20
service...........</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Savage Pride</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MajorMud, Realm Of Legends</FONT></DIV>
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3.2 has a few good bugs in it. and 3.3 and maybe 4.X soon too.
mbbs would run on the internet with the ICO addons.
I used to run a 14 line mbbs 6.25 with a 16 port bocaboard.

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